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Help She Can't Swim Interview
Words: Lauren Strain   
Photography: Simon Fernandez

“It’s hard to breathe when you’re always wearing a maaarrrrrggghhhhskk!” scream ‘n’ strangle Tom vs Leesey of Southern screechers Help She Can’t Swim on new record The Death Of Nightlife, gargling a mantra that summarises precisely what this gaggle of feisty spittle kids (they’re twentysomethings, but as giggly and charming as pre-teens on Fanta) are about. They want conviction, opinion, individuality, and my, they are loud about it. They want, “DANCING!” bounces Leesey, with orange hair, aqua eyes and turquoise legs. “Extreme dancing. But you don’t get that much anymore. It’s just, ‘How po-faced can I look?’”

Help She Can't Swim

“I think it’s nice when the audience don’t look like they should all be at the same gig,” says Tom, sparkly eyes and alabaster cheekbones. “You’ll have 50 people looking really pissed off and then little clumps of people who actually know who we are.”

“Going ‘EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!’” squeals Leesey. “When I was 15 and saw Kenickie and Bis, talking to them was the best thing ever. Now, when girls come up to me going, ‘I felt like that’, it means so much – that’s what I do it for.”

“It always makes me feel bad when people say, ‘We’re here just to see you!’ I think, ‘I’m sorry’.” “You don’t really think that, you think ‘Come to meee, come to Tom Denneeeyyyy,’” Leesey teases.

“Yeah, I just want them to stroke my ego.”

“They stroke your legs.”

“Which is the next best thing.”

Anyway. We’re in London, discernible from drummer Lewis’ excellent imitations of various borough-based accents; specifically, in a cream box at The Forum preparing for some weird Rizlasponsored affair in support of CSS. Last week, they took their tumbling toy melodies and boy-girl sparring to a house in Coventry with fairylights and a jazz piano: here’s a band able to swap huge theatres with the Brazilian buzz mob for three quid gigs, lose a member, then rework 40-odd quartetfriendly tracks. “It feels like this is only our fourth or fifth gig,” Tom marvels, “because it’s like…Yes Leesey, I’m still playing the same old shit …But we’re almost a new band.”

“It’s bad for me ‘cause I’m having to play loads more,” Leesey mock-moans. “There’s only a couple of songs now where I only have to sing; otherwise I’m multi-tasking to the max. Which is clearly not my forte.”

“This album’s a lot less bratty than the first one?” Tom suggests.

“More matuuooiiiire,” snorts Lew as Leesey shrieks with incredulous laughter.

“But I think that’s what it was,” Tom insists.

“It was us working out what sort of band we actually were. On the first, we were more…well, yeah!” he laughs, as Lew yowls like a cat, dying.

“We were just taking the piss out of stuff. This album’s a bit darker.

“I think it’s more about…”

“Bush,” deadpans Lew.

“No, not Bush!” Leesey splutters. “It’s very much a personal politics thing. More open. With the first it was just, ‘Yeah, fuck you, fuck you and YOU TOO, y’know? We were lazy little shits.”

“With this one, it’s more, ‘Fuck me, I’m rubbish,’” laughs Tom. “We were sat in my room and realised we had to write lyrics for tomorrow, so we went, ‘Let’s write a song about stuff we actually like!’”

So! Reasons why I firstly liked and now giddily love Help She Can’t Swim:

1. While you hurtle into walls like a legless elephant to their glucosamine tirades of snotty guitars and screwed computer-carnival keyboards, a wry lyric’ll smack you in the face and shock you to stasis: “The organs are exposed/In a game of Operation/And the buzzer always goes/When you put the tweezers in” as an analogy for fragility, anyone? How about “I’m sick to death/Of Christmases by hospital beds/Holding thin hands or kissing hot foreheads”? Nothing like a rancorous confrontation of loss set against shouty jumps of abandon to plague yer body.

2. Their merchandise consists of FELT OWLS!

3. Their ridiculous tour stories include playing a community centre booked by a 13-year-old where, “There were kids selling Smarties at a counter, like a tuck shop” (his parents laid on a buffet); and urinating (on people, in Germany) – “not in a sexy way” – but we shan’t delve, yeah?

Reasons why you should cut straight to the ‘giddily love’ part and not bother with ‘firstly liked’?

All of the above.

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