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Gogol Bordello Interview
Words: Nicola Meighan   
Photography: Steve Double

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Moustachioed radicals through the years, in ascending succession of sexual allure: Albert Einstein, Friedrich Nietzsche, Edgar Allan Poe, Arthur Conan Doyle, David Crosby, Asterix the Gaul, Tom Selleck, Xena: Warrior Princess, Poirot.

The time-honoured canon of nose beards, however, has recently been bestialised by a bold, bewhiskered Slavic pop-revolter whose rampant handlebar threatens to sabotage both his avidly handsome, bristling visage; and the retrospective bollocks of his hairy, venerated forebears. He is Eugene Hutz of Gogol Bordello: a swaggering, sky-high, saucer-eyed gypsy punk. The Ukrainian Iggy, you might say. But best not.

“It’s kind of getting a little too much,” yawns our winkle-picking, peripatetic Yosemite Sam, from the paisley-pattern margins of a boudoir in London.

“It’s like, I get called the Iggy Pop of the Ukraine; Marcel Marceau got called the Charlie Chaplin of Europe. But how much really fuckin’ Marcel Marceau is like Charlie Chaplin?” he quarrels in quaint, clipped English. “Like, not at all.

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“People are conditioned to think in comparisons,” he chides in rising agitation. “But after a while they see that Marcel Marceau is one guy and fuckin’ Iggy Pop is another and then there’s me, I’m a different guy, and Charlie Chaplin is a completely another guy again,” he concludes.

That’s that cleared up then. Eugene Hutz – angular, rabid brigadier of New York thrash-folk decadents Gogol Bordello – is a one-off. Born in the Ukraine at the height of the Cold War, Hutz fled Chernobyl’s fallout in a fishing boat, grew up in sundry Eastern European gypsy communes and eventually settled in Vermont with his family – where his prototype aural menageries spanned The Fags and Flying Fuck.

On relocating (“escaping”) to New York 10 years ago, Hutz modelled for Donna Karan (among others); helmed a flamenco reggaeton cult at a lewd downtown Bulgarian nitespot (“Eastern Europeans are really supportive of debauchery,” he applauds); made his Hollywood debut alongside boggle-eyed hobbit Elijah Wood (in Everything Is Illuminated); and recently completed a documentary, The Pied Piper Of Hutzovina – which chronicles one of his annual odysseys into lesser-known global musical fringes. Not least, he mobilised cultural magpies, mavericks and arsonists Gogol Bordello.

Their current third album, Gypsy Punks: Underworld God Strike, is a theatrical, international clamour of Balkan folk, itinerant punk, Andalusian knees-ups and scuzzy, stunted dub: unsurprising, perhaps, given Gogol Bordello’s eightsome reel of Russians, Ecuadorians, Thai-Americans, Ukrainians, Israelis, Floridians and Chinese-Scots. The Clash, Funkadelic, Dostoyevsky, The Birthday Party, Bulgakov, Bartok and absurdism all feature; while Hutz also flicks a wink to the Ig. “Of course I’m into The Stooges! Who isn’t! You’ve got to be like a fuckin’ idiot not to love them,” he scolds. He will later mark his words.

For now, however, on the eve of a European tour, Hutz is endorsing travelling light. “I totally minimise my luggage, everything’s pretty disposable, apart from my guitar and my gypsy flag.

They’re always with me,” he avows. “Books too.” What’s your current tour-bus reading? “It’s a bit of a book called The Palm-Wine Drinkard,” he shrugs in a lazy Baltic drawl. “It’s a like a totally mad, psychedelic, African tale – to say the least.”

“We saw the creatures that we called ‘Drum’, ‘Song’ and ‘Dance’ personally, and these creatures were living creatures as ours. When these three fellows started at the same time, the whole people of the town, the whole people that rose up from the grave, animals, snakes, spirits and other nameless creatures, were dancing together with these three fellows. When the whole people of that town and bush creatures started dancing together none of them could stop for two days.”
– Amos Tutuola, The Palm-Wine Drinkard

Here are Gogol Bordello live: orgies, accordions, drum-fucking, dog-barking, pyrotechnics, piratedancing, whirling zombies, naked degenerates, acrobatics, fire-eating, stage-scaling, wax-guzzling: bright United Nations chaos. “Yeah, a lot of fun comes from baptising people, you know, doing their first time.” Hutz salaciously curls his abundant moustache. “But another kind of fun is where we’re playing for thousands of people who know us, all going fucking insane,” he claims, and he’s unmistaken. They render crowds compelled to dance for days.

Do you enjoy a reciprocal abandonment from music? “Oh yeah! I just gone to Spain and to France, to gypsy pilgrimages,” Eugene enlivens, “and there were flamenco musicians that were totally not known, like down-and-outers, very different to what we know, and they were amazing, totally insane. Same thing in Ukraine,” muses our musical highwayman. “I met like a gypsy group that was basically playing on trains and at local weddings and funerals and so, I joined them, they welcomed me as a brother into the band…” he trails off, and smiles.

“It’s all about musical communication, with kind of unprofessional but totally authentic artists,” he resumes, enthused. “To me, to see real music in its own habitat is so important. And it’s great to play with these musicians because there’s a lot of repertoire that’s dying, actually – the traditional stuff that never gets anywhere, that never gets known.”

Do you feel a sense of responsibility to explore and document these untapped, declining musical forms? Do you consciously assimilate them?

“Oh yeah, for sure. Part of doing these trips was for scouting for talent for a New York gypsy festival that we’re doing in October. It’s about finding realdeal musicians, you know what I mean – not letting fuckin’ World Music institutes near it, ‘cause we know what they’re gonna bring,” he snorts.

“But another big part of it is kind of unexplainable,” Hutz intently hushes. “I guess I really can’t live without that music – I guess it goes back to my own upbringing, where I got blown away by gypsy musicians from my family, you know? And since then, no rock concert, no rave does it to me anymore.” He is almost apologetic. “I end up going all the way to completely deserted areas, just to find people that will actually blow me away,” he motions, wide-eyed.

“I was a palm-wine drinkard since I was a boy of 10…I was drinking palm-wine from morning till night and from night and till morning. I could not drink ordinary water at all except palm wine. When there was no palm-wine for me to drink I started to drink ordinary water, but I did not satisfy with it as palm-wine.”
– Amos Tutuola, The Palm-Wine Drinkard

Is that why you started your own band – because nothing around you could slake your craving for music? “Absolutely. I think that at one point I realised I was utterly frustrated with predominant forms of music, and nothing was doing it for me,” he quickens. “So I was just like, what the fuck, I’m gonna do it myself. And it was the same with other people. In New York, I met other people who were in the same mind-frame, who just really couldn’t fuckin’ bear, you know, ongoing fuckin’ crap.”

Perhaps it’s this zeal for aesthetic atonement; for inducing socio-cultural uproar, that’s led the Ukrainian Pied Piper to Hollywood: Hutz acknowledges Lenin’s notion of cinema as vital artistic mass medium. Any plans for further celluloid adventures, following last year’s lauded debut?

“Well, there are a couple of roles,” he nods, “but I can’t really declare them at the moment, because they’re kind of competing one over the other.” They’re fighting over you? A chuckle. Isn’t it great to be fought over? “Eh, no,” he counters. “I wish that it would just be decided with and fuck it.”

You should do a Rom Com – a romantic comedy. Who would be your leading lady? “Woah, not that whole fuckin’ thing. I don’t know. I guess…actually, Iggy Pop could play a nice old leading lady for me, that’d be great!” he exclaims, with a wave goodbye, and a glint in his eye, and a lust for life.

This article first appeared in Issue 13
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