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Black Lips Interview
Words: Ben Blackwell   
Photography: Patrick Pantano
Black Lips are total white trash. Pissing onstage, singing songs with titles such as ‘Everybody Loves A Cocksucker’ – they’re sure to offend even the most liberal supporters of the arts. At the same time, Black Lips are complete gentlemen, all charm and grace and sincerity. It’s bands like these, full of paradoxes, contradictions and sheer unexplainables, which make rock music exciting, dangerous, unpredictable – and all those things it has always promised it could be.

Cole is a dead ringer for Paul McCartney on the gatefold of Sgt Pepper’s…, complete with a push-broom moustache and an endearing dark helmet of hair. Onstage, he’s like a child imitating Jimi Hendrix. He has mastered all the parlour tricks: playing with his teeth; pushing the microphone stand forward with his feet; bending at the knees; and extending the guitar like an oversized phallus as it screams out fuzz from the urethra of its pick-ups.

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Jared is the cutest of the bunch (they all have those faces you just wanna make out with). Bred from a long line of prominent Southern preachers – Tammy Faye Baker used to babysit him – he was the main objector to the working title for Let It Bloom, which was to be a re-appropriation of Lester Bangs’ claim to be “the last of the white niggers”. Giving the album that title pretty much meant he would never be able to talk to his family again. They were big supporters of the Civil Rights movement in the American South – if you’re adventurous, search out recordings by The Swilley Family, a country/gospelstyle act they formed in the Sixties and Seventies that Jared describes as “not half bad”.

Ian is the missing link. As the band’s fourth guitarist, it’s clear he’s the one who should have been there all along. He’s the Brian Jones in the rock solid Mick/Keef-style line-up of Cole and Jared. He’s arguably also the most skilled musician of the bunch (arguably, because Joe is a classically trained pianist, but I get the feeling he likes to stay behind the drums just for the challenge). Ian joined the band the day before the start of a tour they spent opening for Sky Saxon and the Seeds. Cole taught him most of the songs in the back of the van. “This song is E, D, A,” Cole would say. And then: “This song is a little different – it’s E, A, D.” All Ian could say to himself was: “These guys are fucking brilliant.”

Ian is also known for the removable gold caps (or ‘grill’) he puts over his teeth. It’s such a confusing merging of dirty Southern garage rock and screwed Southern hip hop that I can’t help but be enamored by the audacity and absurdity of it. Oh yeah – and he supposedly bought the grill with aid money he received after Hurricane Katrina.

But, before I can get all up in arms, I hear one of the Lips’ latest compositions, ‘Katrina’, the entire lyrics of which are as follows: “Oh, Katrina, why you gotta be mean?/You stole my heart way down in New Orleans/I can’t believe what I saw on the TV screen/Oh, Katrina, why can’t you be serene?”

The song is all clumsy drums and whirling fuzz lines. It is by far the most accurate approximation of modern day Back From The Grave-style garage since The Gories busted out with ‘Drowning’ in 1992. Black Lips hope to release the song on a New Orleans label, and to donate any profits from its sale to charity.

Joe is the organised one. He drives the van, deals with promoters and basically makes sure everything works as smoothly as possible. Up until not too long ago, he could be found tuning Cole’s guitar in the middle of a set, because Cole had no idea how to do so. When he drums, he looks as though he is undergoing electro-shock treatment. He writes more songs and is more responsible for the band’s sound than any other drummer I’ve ever met. But he’s decidedly in the background. Black Lips have their roots in a high school band called The Renegades; all the current members were in it at one point or another. The only relevant story about The Renegades I can pull out of them is that both Cole and Jared sprayed Binaca on their dicks and set them on fire during one performance. Cole made the mistake of covering his dick with Gak (children’s goo – part Silly Putty, part calf liver) and it quickly turned into a melting mess.

And then there are the most relayed tales about Black Lips: their insane onstage antics find Cole vomiting, pissing into his own mouth, spitting in the air and catching it on his face, and sometimes using his cock as a guitar pick.

Regarding the pissing, Cole is the first to admit, “It’s so fucking stupid.” “It’s lame and I hate it,” he says, “but it gets such a reaction from the crowd.”

punch-drunk love
When Black Lips get drunk at a Best Western in Denver, after a 13-hour drive through a blizzard that has essentially shut down the state of Kansas (and only to play two songs), they’re unnaturally excited about watching their limited-edition tour DVD. Filmed while the band was on the West Coast in 2005 recording Let it Bloom, it finds them in the van and in the studio, and captures all the shenanigans one could expect from a bunch of kids in their early twenties with a never-ending supply of beer.

But there’s also a terribly heartwarming scene in the DVD that has Black Lips performing in a small apartment in San Francisco. All of the attendees are underage kids who couldn’t get into the Lips’ 21+ bar show. The band holler lyrics without microphones; Joe plays with towels covering his drums; and the room is packed with frantic teenagers revelling in the excitement and generally losing their shit. The gig seems so totally uncharacteristic of how these guys are perceived, and it makes me wanna crawl up and give them a collective hug, tell them they’re doing everything right, to fuckin’ forget those assholes who focus on their onstage tomfoolery – to follow their instincts, as they’ve proven to be spot on so far.

After some brew, Cole and Jared are quick to name their idols. Tonight, at least the following were mentioned: Billy Miller and Miriam Linna, of ABones/ Norton Records fame; Los Saicos – a relatively unknown South American garage-punk band that Black Lips have taken loads of inspiration from; Darin Raffaelli, frontman for long-forgotten Nineties acts Supercharger and The Brentwoods, and better known for penning songs for The Donnas among others; and some dude from Seattle punk-scuzzers The Spits (prominently featured in the DVD).

But all members would say that their initial infatuation with the Sixties punk sound was via Van Morrison’s group, Them. From there, a logical progression came about: they were slowly turned on to records like the aforementioned Back From The Gravecompilation series on Crypt Records: an eight-volume collection of pure outta-tune, untalented Sixties teen punk howling that is the most accurate blueprint of Black Lips’ sound.

But other styles creep in unexpectedly. Songs such as ‘Born to Be A Man’ and ‘Make It’ are good ole hillbilly country, ŕ la Buck Owens, or an obscure Carl Perkins B-side on Sun. And on a disarmingly brilliant cover of the Jacques Dutronc song ‘Hippie Hippie Hourrah’, the decidedly austere arrangement proves that these degenerates can transform a song and turn it into their own. And don’t forget the crowd favourite ‘Dirty Hands’, a Spector-ish romp that apes The Beatles and asks – in a tone bordering on sheer dumbfounded –“Do you really want to hold my dirty hands?”

makeout city
Their most recent tour ends with an unexpected spot opening for Yeah Yeah Yeahs in the Detroit suburb of Royal Oak. The Lips boys are beyond excited, and Cole’s take on the situation is simply: “I’m viewing this show purely as a publicity stunt.” Black Lips hop onstage half an hour after the doors open and are facing a fairly empty room (the capacity is roughly 4,500) of a couple of hundred Day-Glo clad suburban Karen O wannabes squished up to the front barrier, plaintively waiting for Yeahs. It is still the biggest crowd they’ve ever faced.

What those hipster teenagers get is 20 minutes of pure distilled brilliance. The Lips cut any deadweight from the set. Surprisingly, all three of the YYYs are sitting stage right and fully taking in the spectacle. Ending the set with the quintessential Black Lips song, ‘Freakout’, Ian lights a pack of Black Cats as they dangle from his mouth, to looks of pure horror from the unexpecting teens. He spits up some blood and then crosses the stage to lock tongues with Cole. This homophobe-baiting seems to draw the most ire from the crowd. And, like that, the show is over. In a show of irony, self-deprecation, giving the finger, or whatever you want call it, the Lips boys venture out back onstage with white towels around their necks, holding one another’s hands. And they bow. The classic arena rock goodbye. YYYs are blown away, dispensing hugs and praise. But their tour manager and assorted higherups from the venue are none too pleased. Black Lips are immediately kicked out of the club, their gear loaded outside by the union grunts. The tour manager lectures the guys (“What made you think you could do this? You ever ask permission? Heard of a fire code?”), to which they just shrug their shoulders in a Dennis The Menace ‘sorry, mister’ sort of way. But they mean no apology.

The band sneak back into the club (by lying to security and saying they were Blood On The Wall, the other opening band), and are able to witness Karen O wearing a Black Lips sticker on her chest during the entire YYYs performance. These boys are content; everything was worthwhile.

So Black Lips again found themselves in front of a room of teenagers, but their performance was the complete polar opposite of the one before, in the San Francisco apartment. And yet it worked; Black Lips made sense. In their world, this is something to behold. Black Lips have learned both to transcend and to embrace their contradictions. It is now time for everyone else to transcend their own reservations and embrace Black Lips.
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